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[00:00:57] Speaker B: Good morning, Mosaic.
So glad to have you guys with us this morning. Yes, we are in our series called Open Doors. And the whole kind of point of this series is that we want to move you guys. Move all of us. Go ahead and throw it up there, Tony. From awkward insecurities to shameless persistence in prayer. How many of you can admit sometimes praying is awkward, Sometimes it makes you insecure?
I would like to tell you a story about when I experienced both of those things at the exact same time. Okay, so a couple years ago, I was invited to an event, and I was very excited to go. But also I was highly intimidated because it was one of those things where as I looked at the RSVP list, it was like a weekend intensive, only like 30 women. And as I was looking at the list, I went, oh, I know almost all of these women and none of them know me.
Cause here's the thing. I knew the girl that had invited me, but the rest of them, I was like, oh, I know you because I heard you speak at a conference. Oh, I know you because I've read your book. I know you because I've read lots of your books. And as I was going through the list, I was like, God, why am I going to this event?
So I went. I was very excited. Everyone was very kind. But because it was kind of like a weekend intensive, it wasn't just like a go and hang out social weekend. We had things to do.
So the very first morning, they assigned us to a room. Like, remember in elementary school when they would go around and count like, 1, 2, 1, 2? It felt like that kind of. So I'm in this room with people that I Don't know. And we're answering questions and we're doing all these things. And we get to the end of our morning session, and our last task is to pray for the person on your right.
And I look to the person on my right, and, like, all that I know is her name is Sarah, because she said it a few minutes ago. I know nothing else. So I was like, okay, I gotta think, God, you better give me, like, a download right now of what to say about Sarah, because I ain't got nothing. So my room decided that they should let the pastor start the prayer.
That meant me. That meant I was first. And I had no time to figure it out. So I'm like, okay.
So I start praying, and I said, God, would you make Sarah a camel?
And I was like, what did you just say?
And then I kept going.
I was like, God, be with her in, like, the desert, in the dry places. God, make her a camel. And in my brain, I'm like, kristen, shut up, shut up, shut up. Stop talking. Stop talking. Stop talking. Stop talking. I didn't stop talking, you guys. I just kept going. And I was like, that she would find hydration in an oasis eventually. I closed my mouth. Thank God. I have no idea what anyone else prayed. I have no idea what the person to my left prayed for me, because I was mortified. I was like, I have got to get out of here.
And now I'm like, with this group, right? So we have sessions in the afternoon and the evening, and she doesn't say anything to me. And I'm like, girl, I get it. I know.
So the next morning, we're back together in the same room, and she pulls me aside, and she was like, hey, your prayer yesterday.
I said, I know. I'm so sorry.
She was like, no, I have to tell you something.
She said, no one knows this. And she said, I couldn't say anything then because her boss was in the room. She's like, I haven't told my boss yet, but my husband and I are trying to get pregnant after loss.
And as we've been seeking out God for this prayer request, camel keeps coming up.
I said, you are kidding me. You have got to be joking. She was like, now it's really been the color camel. We haven't had anyone pray yet that, like, I would be a camel.
So you're the first to do that.
She said, but I want you to know that when you said it, it felt like confirmation from God that he heard us and that he was hearing our prayers.
Great.
Excellent. So I like to tell that story to let other people know and to remind myself that if we will be shamelessly persistent in just saying the things, God will use our awkward and weird words to reach someone else in a way that only he can.
So we're gonna look at the verse that we've kind of walked through really quick for this series. In week one, Pastor Naim taught on what it means to keep asking. And then when we ask in Luke 11, we need to ask with honesty and consistency. And when we do that, then we will receive what we ask for. In week two, he talked about how we need to keep seeking and that if we're seeking, then we will find more. Maybe not what we're looking for, but we'll find presence and we'll find the wisdom of God for our situation.
And so today I want to look at what does it look like to keep on knocking, and what does it mean that doors will be opened to us if we do that?
One thing that I do know about the way God opens doors is that he does not do it like my children, especially the bathroom door.
Okay, Anybody else feel like your child has some kind of radar on you? That the second you go into the bathroom, they know it and then they need you? Okay, My kids can be on their iPads. My kids can be playing with someone else. They can be down the block.
And the second I walk into the bathroom, they're there at that door. No knocking, just flinging it wide open.
Okay, thank you so much.
I don't think this is the way God does it. Now, also, my kids, I will give them a little credit. When we go to someone else's house, they're not quite so insistent. Okay? But I do think what we're missing is still a lack of patience.
So my children, whether it's trick or treating or showing up to a birthday party or visiting a neighbor or whatever it is, they will go up and knock on the door. And if that door doesn't immediately open, they're like, well, I guess they're not home. And they turn to walk away.
And sometimes I'm like, hey, you gotta give them a second.
Maybe they're in the bathroom with their own children.
Okay? Maybe they're in another part of the house. And you just have to give them a second to get to the door so they can open it.
Knock again, and be patient in your waiting.
And how many of us also do that to God?
We knock on a door, and if God does not immediately open it, then we assume that he's not listening. Or we decide that he is too busy and he's not coming to the door, so we consider it closed, or we consider it unavailable to us, and we just turn and walk away before he's even had a chance to get there.
Or for some of us, if we're honest, there might actually be a deeper reason why you have stopped knocking, why altogether.
And it could be that you are offended by God.
It could be that because of past prayers that you have that have gone unanswered, you just think about prayer and you associate it with disappointment.
It could be that you're afraid to try again. You're afraid to pray again because you fear feeling rejected by God, that he's going to intentionally, somehow decide not to. To answer your prayer.
Or maybe it leaves you feeling like a failure because you believe or maybe even have been told that somehow you're at fault, that if only you had a stronger faith or you had prayed better or with the right words, that it would have worked.
And so that's what we're gonna look at today is what do we do when we're knocking on doors and they're not opening? And the story that we're gonna start with is not a parable that Jesus made up, but something that actually happened. And it's one, to be honest with you, that I often see skip when I read the Gospels, because I, quite frankly, don't like it.
This story does not depict Jesus in the way that I like to think about our kind and loving Jesus. But what I found this week in my research is that if we ask the right questions of Scripture when we're in the text, that actually it will reveal something more. And so if we ask the right questions of this story, it. It will show us what to do in situations where Jesus doesn't respond in the way that we want him to.
So we're gonna pick it up. In Matthew 15, it says, Then Jesus left Galilee and went north to the region of Tyre in Sidon. A gentile woman. What kind of woman?
Gentile? Gentile. This is very important. A Gentile woman is someone who was not Jewish. She was not Jewish by ethnicity, by culture, by belief system. Nothing. Okay? A Gentile woman who lived there came to him pleading, have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David, for my daughter is possessed by a demon that torments her severely.
But Jesus gave her no reply, not even a word, just ghosted her.
Then his disciples urged him to send her away.
Tell her to go away, they said. She is bothering us with all her begging.
This is reminiscent of the story that Pastor Naim taught last week. Remember the parable of the cruel judge and the annoying widow?
All of these annoying women bothering the holy righteous men who are trying to do the church stuff.
Thank God we don't have that anymore, right?
Right.
So we keep going.
So Jesus said to the woman, I was sent only to help God's lost sheep, the people of Israel.
But she came and worshiped him, pleading again, lord, help me.
And here's the part I really don't like, so I'm gonna make you read it with me, okay? Jesus responded, it isn't right to take food from who?
The children and feed it to who, the dogs?
Jesus says to her, it isn't right to take the food from the children and feed it to the dogs.
And yes, he is calling her a dog in this story. No matter how deep you dig into the context of this verse to try to make it mean something other than a harsh insult, you can't. This is actually what Jesus intended to say. And dogs at the time were different than dogs of today. Right. If you're a cat person, then you might have, like, negative feelings toward dogs, but it was very different then. Jewish people never would have even considered having a dog as, like, a companion or a pet or being in their house.
Dogs were associated with filth and with garbage, kind of the way that we think about rats today, today.
So in our context, it would be like if Jesus was like, hey, we're not gonna take food from the children, from the kiddos, and give it to rats like you is basically what was implied here.
So here's the question, right?
Why?
Why does our Jesus use this harsh insult against this woman?
Now, maybe he was just repeating what he heard the disciples say. Maybe he was repeating the chatter that he heard from other people in the crowd when she showed up in the room.
But also, Jesus is not one to mince words. He is very intentional in the things that he chooses to say. And so what it feels like to me is that what he is actually doing is naming the reality of the situation.
He's like, I'm just gonna call it like it is and say with my full chest that you all think she's a dog in this situation. At the time, he was making it clear that she was on the outside of the system.
See, because if the Jewish people were the children of God, as a Gentile, she was outside of that. And what that meant was, she did not deserve all that they got as children of God. She did not deserve their privilege. Or their protection or their inclusion as an outsider. The law actually said that what she deserved was to be rejected and dismissed because of who she was and where she came from.
And so Jesus chooses in this moment to just call it out and be like, okay, I'm gonna make it plain.
She's not part of you.
And so this woman then has a choice, right? She has a choice in this moment to say, am I going to be offended and walk away, or am I going to keep knocking?
And that's what happens. This woman had a shameless persistence. She decided she didn't care what she looked like. She decided she did not care what all of the other people were saying about her.
Not only that, she did not internalize the shame that they were trying to put on her for who she is.
She also didn't try to argue with their assumptions or even change their mind about who she was. Instead, she leveraged her position, knowing where it was. She leveraged her position to call out the broader generosity of this God that they believed in and that they claimed to follow.
And so we pick it up in verse 27, you gotta love a witty woman. With a quick comeback, she replied, that's true, Lord, but even dogs are allowed to eat the scraps that fall beneath their master's table.
Period.
Dear woman, Jesus said to her, your faith is great. Your request is granted.
And her daughter was instantly healed.
Now, I guarantee you that at this point of the story, the person that is offended is no longer the woman, but it's everyone else in the room.
Everyone else is now offended because of what Jesus did with this miracle of choosing to heal a gentile girl.
Jesus broke the boundary of who got to belong to God's family, of he expanded who got to be part of all of the things that come with being in God's family and being called a child of God.
Jesus, in this miracle, redefined who gets to be worthy of the grace and the compassion of Jesus.
See, Jesus called her shameless persistence, faith.
And when she leaned into it, it opened the door for so much more than just healing for her life and the life of her family.
And so our question today, when we take this story is, can God offend you enough to stop you?
Can God offend you enough to stop you, to stop you from praying, from believing, for persisting, from knocking?
Because this is a really great story, right? And there are a lot of other really great stories. Even here in our own community, we as a staff have the honor of praying for your prayer requests every single week. So when you Write something on the cross or you leave it in the chat on livestream or if you send us an email, however you get your prayer requests to us. We set aside time every week to. To pray over them and to pray with you and for you. And so I can tell you that God is doing amazing things and he is answering prayers.
We have a baby who was healed without medical intervention in a way that science cannot explain.
That is an answered prayer. We've seen restoration of relationships that seemed broken beyond repair.
We have stories of people who have been rejected, finding belonging and community and love again.
We have seen people be able to dig deep and find forgiveness for heinous acts that were committed against them, that they should have never had to suffer, but somehow they've been able to forgive.
We've also seen people who have been hurt by the church or maybe even been told that it was time for them to leave the church because of who they were or what they believe.
And we have find them. We have seen them find God again and find the grace and compassion of Jesus. And they are now here in a new community, living new lives of hope and light.
These are all amazing, miraculous answers to prayer.
But there are other stories too, aren't there?
There are other stories that don't have happy endings that we prayed for.
That seems like our prayers maybe didn't work. And that's because God doesn't always answer the way we want him to when we pray. God doesn't always answer the way we want him to. And so some of you prayed for healing and that person is no longer with us.
Some of you prayed earnestly and you sought restoration only to find yourself now even more somehow alienated and left out on the outside.
On top of that, for many of us, the ache and the grief doesn't even stop right there. Because while we're grieving our own personal losses, we're also praying and carrying the weight of the world that we live in.
And my friends, carrying all of that is exhausting.
We're praying for justice where there's violence. We're praying for protection where there's fear.
We're praying dignity for people that are being dehumanized. We're praying for peace in places where it seems so easily broken.
I know that you are praying for these things and you are doing what you can do to help, maybe even be an answer to these prayers, and it can wear you down.
This weekend, we're honoring Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And all of the good that he did for the civil rights movement. But I want to tell you about maybe a lesser known moment in his life around his kitchen table in 1956.
So at this point, Dr. King was exhausted. He was so tired of kind of like fighting the same fight and fighting for rights that he felt like honestly should just be freely given to all people.
He was also scared. His family was receiving death threats. Their house had been bombed. He was terrified. He was afraid for his safety and the safety of the people that he loved. And he was discouraged.
He tells the story saying that he was discouraged, that he was depressed because change was happening so slowly, and it seemed like maybe nothing good would ever even come of all of his efforts. And so he sat down at his kitchen table and he prayed for a way out. And he said, God, I'm done.
It's not making a difference.
I can't do this anymore. I don't want to do this anymore. Will you please show me a way out?
Please show me a way that I can stop doing all of this fighting, all of this stuff. I just want to go back and have a normal life.
And he says, as he recounts this story, that he felt God respond not with an escape plan, not with an assurance of what would happen, but with presence and. And a promise.
God told Dr. King when he this is what he says, that he felt in his spirit to keep fighting for truth and to keep fighting for righteousness, but that God would be with him no matter what. And that God would never, ever leave him alone, that God would be on his side forever.
So Dr. King persisted.
And he persisted for a while. But we all know the end of the story is that he didn't actually get to see the door open that he prayed for.
His life ended too soon. And he did not get to see what God had promised. But what he did know and what he did get to experience is that God would be with him no matter what he faced and no matter what he saw as he was going and waiting, as long as he kept knocking and kept persisting that God's presence would be with him.
See, sometimes we have to persist in knocking because we're doing it on behalf of other people who don't have the strength to do it themselves.
Sometimes we have to persist in knocking as a community, in communal prayers for the good of the world and the people around us, because there are days where all of us find that we can't pray the prayer and we can't find the words, and we don't have the strength, and it's hard to believe.
So your persistence in knocking can actually be the answer to someone else's prayer.
And persistence in prayer does not guarantee an outcome. It also doesn't mean that we have to pretend that everything is okay when it's not.
What it means is that we refuse to equate pain with an uncaring God.
It means we choose to keep praying, believing that God is listening, because he cares about us and he loves us, and he loves every single person in this world that he created and loves so deeply.
So we persist in prayer, not to pretend like it's all okay, but because we know that God is there with us in it.
I also think in our prayers, you know, we think we know what's gonna be behind the door that we're knocking on, but what we actually have in the picture of our mind is what we want to be on the other side of the door that we're knocking on.
But persistence in prayer doesn't guarantee us a specific outcome, even when we pray God, here's the one thing that I want. It doesn't mean that that's actually what's back there. It just keeps us open to God's presence, no matter what we find on the other side.
Has anybody ever been in maybe a movie theater, maybe in your living room, and you got absolutely wrecked by a Disney movie?
Wrecked.
Right. I'm talking inside out, lion king, Toy Story 3 up.
Okay. Encanto is another one for me.
Thank you, Louisa, and your super strength. I didn't actually need to see that, but great. Okay, so if you don't know the movie, Encanto is about the Madrigal family and what happens in this family. This family is special. And everybody on their fifth birthday has the opportunity to open a door. Like, not just any door, a new door, a special door, a magical door. It's a very big deal, okay, that they get to go and open this door. And no one knows what's gonna be behind the door until they open it. But it's always something good, and it's always something really special. And it's always something that has been created and crafted uniquely just for the person that has the power to open it.
And so what happens is Mirabel on her fifth birthday. Mirabel's our main character. And she goes and she touches the doorknob and nothing happens. And the door does not open.
And everyone is confused because she did exactly what she was told to do. She did exactly what everyone else in her family before her had done, and it didn't work.
So as we go through the movie, we kind of Watch her have this identity crisis and even, like, existential crisis of faith as she watches, year after year, other people touch the doorknob and open their door and do, like, the least amount of things by just touching a doorknob and opening the door and finding more than they could ask or imagine on the other side.
But see, for Mirabel, and I think for a lot of us, the pain isn't just that the door didn't open.
It's that we believed something good was going to be on the other side.
We believed that we had been promised that something good was going to be on the other side.
That's the pain that we have to acknowledge and that we have to be honest about.
At the end of the story, Mirabel finds herself in front of another door, a different door. And it's not the one that was created just for her, and it's not even the one that she wanted to be standing in front of, but it was a door nonetheless. And so as she walks through, she doesn't find like, oh, well, this explains everything.
Oh, this makes it all okay. All the trauma from my life. Oh, this is the thing I've been waiting for. She doesn't find any of that.
But what she does find is connection and belonging. And she finds a love that never left her, even when it looked like she was forgotten and alone.
See, the door that you are knocking on might not open to give you what you want, but God is consistent even when the outcome isn't.
God is consistent even when the outcome isn't.
And if you did not get the answer to the prayer that you are praying for, God wants you to know something.
God wants you to know that a delay is not an indication of weak faith, that this is not your fault and that you did not have the wrong words.
Maybe even if you had different words or if you had prayed differently or you had prayed more or you had fasted, it doesn't mean that you would have necessarily been able to change the outcome.
God needs you to know that this is not in your hands. It's not because your faith was weak. It's not because you were the wrong person to be asked to pray.
A delay is not an indication of weak faith, and silence is not always an answer.
Sometimes the disappointment that we have associated with prayer is actually connected to our own unmet expectation that God is going to immediately open that door the second that we knock on it.
We have to be able to acknowledge where we are attaching our disappointment to our own expectations versus the character of who God Is because when we attach disappointment to the character of God, it will leave us in a place of going. I don't want to pray ever again, because why?
But when we can show up honestly and recognize that the disappointment comes from our own expectation, it is still.
And God knows that. But it's a very different way forward, still believing and trusting that God is good.
Maybe it's just taking God a minute to get to the door, and we have to be patient in our waiting.
I think maybe for others of you, God has actually opened a door already.
God has opened a door over here, but we're so focused on this door over here that we think God is going to open that we've missed the opportunity and all of the things that he has for us behind a different door.
Maybe healing did not come, but peace did in a way that actually makes no sense. But somehow you're still able to grieve and have hope at the same time. And that's because the supernatural peace of God met you at a different door, not the one that you hoped that you would walk through.
Maybe loss actually happened, but the Holy Spirit has carried you in a way that you can't fully explain.
Maybe you believe that you don't have the strength to go on anymore. And you're like, I'm done. I get it. The Dr. Martin Luther King story. I'm done.
I don't have the strength. I can't do it. I can't do this life, God, I'm done.
I want you to know that you are still here.
And there's a reason that you are still here. And it matters that you are still here. And it means something that you are still here because it means God is still working in your life.
As long as you want to hold onto God, he will be holding onto you. And if you decide to let go, he won't.
There is a reason that you are still here. And if you do not have the strength, tap into God or tap into someone else. That is what a church community is for.
There is a reason you are still here.
God did not cause your pain, and he did not leave you alone when you found yourself in it.
In the worst moments of your life.
The presence of God might not have been the answer that you prayed for, but it was the presence that showed up and held you and carried you through it.
Closed doors are not punishment.
They oftentimes are protection or provision.
Sometimes they're a way for God to get his best for us, even when we can't see it yet or it doesn't make sense.
And then still there are other doors that are closed because God is waiting on us to open them.
We are not the ones knocking, but God is standing there knocking, and he's like, hey, will you let me in?
Like, I'm not gonna force my way in. Cause God's not like that.
But I wonder for some of you, God has been knocking for a really long time, and you know it.
And I'm not saying that in shame. I'm saying that to tell you how relentlessly persistent God is in coming after you.
God will never stop knocking. But it is up to you to decide that you want to open the door and let him in. What if he's waiting on you to answer?
There's a verse in Revelation that we're gonna put up, and it's actually the prophetic words of, like, the risen Jesus who is to come. Because right now we live in a world of, like, the now and the not yet.
And it's Jesus. And he says, look, I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone. Who, anyone, anyone listens to my voice and opens the door, I'll come in and we'll eat together.
You don't have to use prayer to get God's attention, because you already have it.
You don't have to use prayer to try to get God's attention because you already have it. He already cares about you. He already cares about what you care about.
He knows about every single detail, and he wants you to tell him about all of them. This verse says that anyone who listens and hears Jesus and responds can be with him.
Anyone. And eating together in this verse is not just a fun. Like, Jesus is gonna take us to his house and he's gonna pick up Chick fil a on a Sunday even. Cause only Jesus can do that.
And then we're gonna eat together. That's not what this is. This signifies a intimacy and belonging and an ongoing, unhurried relationship that hopefully does have chicken nuggets.
But it's more than that.
Okay? This is a relationship where Jesus is saying, I am inviting you in. Will you say yes? Jesus isn't saying, open the door and I'll give you whatever you want.
Jesus is saying, open. Open the door and I'll come in.
Open the door and I'll stay, no matter what happens.
Maybe opening the door for you feels like saying yes to Jesus and entering into that relationship with him for the first time or the second time or the hundredth time.
For others of you, it might look like taking that next step that you've been putting off for a while. And that could be a variety of things. And that's between you and Holy Spirit. But for some of you, I do think it's baptism. And we're having baptism services next Sunday.
This might be your next step to walk through the door and say, you know what, Jesus? I have no idea what's on the other side of this, but I don't have to because I trust you and I know that you're gonna be with me, and I know that I don't have to know what's on the other side as long as your presence is going to be there.
If that's you, use the QR card, the App Resource center, all the things.
Sometimes prayer feels really, really powerful because it seems to work and we kind of get what we ask for.
At other times, it doesn't.
But the promise of prayer is that even for people who don't get what they're seeking, we still get the presence of Jesus and all that comes with.
So if you don't know what to pray, you're like, I don't know. I don't know what to pray. I want you to know that it all matters. When you're crying in the shower, it counts. When you're, like, raging in your car. Cause it's the only time you're alone, it counts.
When you're spiraling and you're saying all the words that you try to keep in your head, but sometimes they do come out of your mouth because you're human, it counts.
All of it counts. There are verses in scripture that tell us that when we don't know what to pray, that the Holy Spirit actually like groans and just make noises on our behalf, it counts.
You don't have to know what the right words are. If you don't want to walk away and you want to walk through the door, all you have to do is enter into a relationship with Jesus.
And it does not promise answers. It does not promise explanations or guaranteed outcomes.
But what you will experience is a love and forgiveness and grace that you've never experienced before.
Because no matter how hard we try, human people just can't offer it the way God does.
You're gonna everything that you're looking for. Peace, joy, relief for the mental exhaustion, all of it you can find in a relationship with Jesus. And all you have to do is. Is open the door.
My favorite thing about the door where God is standing, Jesus is standing and knocking, is that it doesn't matter how many times you've opened the door before. It doesn't matter how many times you've actually closed the door before.
He's still standing there waiting.
He's still standing there knocking, and he's never gonna leave.
So you ask God, what is your next step? What is causing you to be tempted to walk away?
And where does he want you to persist in knocking?
Let me pray that for you.
God, I thank you so much for who you are. God, I thank you for your faithfulness, Lord, and that you understand the complexity and the weirdness and the awkwardness of insecure humans and God, you don't look at us with pity, you don't look at us with shame, God, but you just look at us with mercy and with love.
And so, God, I pray that we would be able to step into that today, God, that we would accept exactly who we are in you.
God, would you show us the places where we're tempted to walk away?
God, show us the doors that maybe we're a little too focused on?
God, would you lift our eyes and help us to see the places that you're revealing other opportunities, other places where maybe we don't want to go? God, and assure us that your presence will be there with us.
God, for people that are entering into relationship with you and they're like, I just don't know what it means, God, I pray that you would give them the courage to just step out in faith.
God, whether it's the first time or the fifth time or the hundredth time, God, it doesn't matter to you. You always rejoice when your children come back.
So, God, in the name of I pray against any shame, any guilt, God, any lie of the enemy that tells someone in this room right now that it's too late or they're too far gone, or they've done this too many times.
Because, God, your grace and your mercy and your love are never failing and they are never ending.
We're so grateful for who you are.
Amen.
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